tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203041259154417963.post2592046655208589698..comments2023-05-16T07:09:00.086-04:00Comments on Rough Draught: Israel vs HamasYackihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00806399922503867640noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203041259154417963.post-31572047795728270432009-01-15T00:24:00.000-05:002009-01-15T00:24:00.000-05:00many cultures**my spelling has been shit latelymany cultures**<BR/><BR/>my spelling has been shit lately.https://www.blogger.com/profile/11997664836464549291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203041259154417963.post-1994661231426368932009-01-15T00:22:00.000-05:002009-01-15T00:22:00.000-05:00Don't get me wrong, Arvind. I understand where...Don't get me wrong, Arvind. I understand where you're coming from. I'm not denying that it was equally wrong for rockets to be fired into southern Israel -- when I said this situation was bordering on absurdity, I really meant this entire situation, and not just the Israeli counterattack. And yes, there were indeed man cultures that existed and coexisted in that land before the Israelis and Palestinians. However, no single group of people were forced out of that land in the form of an exodus as the Palestinians were circa mid 20th century -- and that's what I was referring to. If Israelis were willing to assimilate back then with Palestinians as Jews and Muslims have been able to do elsewhere (Yemen, Iran, & more), perhaps they could still coexist today. As for casinos, that's just my sarcastic jab at an ironic situation :) Nothing baseless there..https://www.blogger.com/profile/11997664836464549291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203041259154417963.post-56992373580694004622009-01-14T22:52:00.000-05:002009-01-14T22:52:00.000-05:00Badrul: I don't think anyone is going to say that ...Badrul: I don't think anyone is going to say that Israelis are the victims of this particular conflict because that's pretty absurd. But I don't see why anyone would expect an even fight, either. Also, I think you do have to admit that the citizens of Southern Israel are often the victims of terrorism at the hands of Islamic Jihad/Hamas/whoever is firing rockets out of the Gaza Strip. I don't believe that all Israelis think so lowly of Palestinians--the majority actually believe in a two-state solution, which is the only reasonable solution. Israelis may be on Palestinian land, but before that the land was British, Greek, Persian, Assyrian, Babylonian--take your pick. Arguing about who was there first doesn't really solve anything. What needs to be acknowledge is that both Israelis and Palestinians are now there, and they need to find some way to make it work. Israelis and the Palestinian National Authority (sans Hamas) have both already committed themselves to some degree to a two-state solution, so talk of casinos is pretty baseless.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203041259154417963.post-74992391222118903182009-01-14T21:34:00.000-05:002009-01-14T21:34:00.000-05:00It's funny how an army can annihilate over 1,000 p...It's funny how an army can annihilate over 1,000 people, while only losing roughly 11 of their own (4 of which were from their own friendly fire...go figure), and still consider themselves the victims. The problem with the Isrelis and most of their sympathizers is that they have their history all wrong. Never will young Israeli students learn about the large scale massacres committed against Palestinians during the 1948 <A HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba" REL="nofollow">Nakba</A> nore the hundreds-of-thousands of people that to flee. To the Isarelis, the Palestinians are all nothing but blood-thirsty Islamist extremists. Little do they know, they are on the land which once belonged to Palestine. It's only fitting the U.S. should support Israel unconditionally -- it is a gift from one thief to another. Perhaps one day Israel will be kind enough to give Palestinians some casinos on their "reservations", as we so graciously hand off to the 'Indians' in our homeland. These events are borderline absurd. Thank you for writing this piece..https://www.blogger.com/profile/11997664836464549291noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203041259154417963.post-6001581755708695152009-01-14T16:16:00.000-05:002009-01-14T16:16:00.000-05:00I was having this very discussion at lunch today. ...I was having this very discussion at lunch today. Your thoughts on the matter are eminently reasonable. I tend to argue more on the side of Palestine in these conversations to balance out the people who believe Israel can do no wrong. Both sides have very bad actors who are only giving the other side more reason to follow their extremist leaders. I wish there was a way to separate these two groups, put them in different rooms for a few decades so their tempers can cool.Olekhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17048849556218014693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203041259154417963.post-19637139133517133162009-01-14T00:55:00.000-05:002009-01-14T00:55:00.000-05:00I'm glad to hear a bit of approval, Foisol. I just...I'm glad to hear a bit of approval, Foisol. I just got through arguing with two, maybe three different people on points fairy close to what you said.<BR/><BR/>Check it out: http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=55452197802Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203041259154417963.post-2813664881985379742009-01-14T00:51:00.000-05:002009-01-14T00:51:00.000-05:00I'm really glad you took a non-biased attitude tow...I'm really glad you took a non-biased attitude towards this. The other day I got flack from an old friend of mine criticizing my support for Gaza, because of my religion. I'm not a Muslim. And I don't view these people as Muslim's. They are people. Innocent civilians dying while fuel is being put to the fire that is the anger that turns so many youths into easily molded soldiers for fundamentalists. My "support" never went to Hamas or any government. It goes to Palestinian people who don't deserve "a day in the life of.." to be composed of blood on the streets and bombs over their heads.<BR/><BR/>Also, the Evergreen Terrace cover brings back fond memories.Foisolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12334975531903168951noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203041259154417963.post-24047218939778815512009-01-13T21:48:00.000-05:002009-01-13T21:48:00.000-05:00Thanks for the e-applause. It's true that you're g...Thanks for the e-applause. It's true that you're going to see gruesome images of only Palestinians, but that's because a) the war is going on in Gaza--not Israel, b) the Israeli military is vastly superior to Hamas' and c) Israel is being pretty reckless about civilian casualties. Also, it's easy to side with Palestinians since they are the clear underdog. Israel doesn't really need anyone's sympathy because, well, they have weapons. Guns trump sympathy, for the most part. It's important to examine the actions of both sides because simply vilifying either side will not lead to anything worthwhile.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5203041259154417963.post-91101523842173003152009-01-13T21:29:00.000-05:002009-01-13T21:29:00.000-05:00you're an encyclopedia. i've seen some gruesome im...you're an encyclopedia. <BR/><BR/>i've seen some gruesome images of the atrocities, which only conjures up hatred towards israel (but i don't want to say i hate israel because i know so little about it). but at the same time, i question how the palestinians expect any sort of decency from individuals who have been denied an identity for 60 years. i like your blog post because everything i've been reading lately is so partial to either side (most frequently in favor of palestine). so, i'd like to say *clap,clap* and thanks for being so informative. very well written.Yackihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00806399922503867640noreply@blogger.com